What's on a tower?

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What's on a tower?

Post by Tredge » Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:28 pm

There is a tower in my area that I know is used for radio. WSJY
How can I determine what else might be running on this tower? Cell service? Internet broadband?

I realize this is probably a dumb question but I don't know how to tell by looking at it or where to even look up the information.

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Re: What's on a tower?

Post by PID_Stop » Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:00 pm

Tredge wrote:There is a tower in my area that I know is used for radio. WSJY
How can I determine what else might be running on this tower? Cell service? Internet broadband?

I realize this is probably a dumb question but I don't know how to tell by looking at it or where to even look up the information.
It's not a dumb question, but it is a question that most broadcasters and other tower tenants would be reluctant to answer for security reasons, particularly given the long-standing problems with vandalism, and the increasing reality of terrorism. If you are dealing with an interference issue, your best course is to contact the station for assistance. That would also be the place to start if you have a safety concern about the tower -- failed tower lights, for instance.

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Post by TPT » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:06 pm

Cavell Mertz has an app that can be used with Google Earth that will identify the locations of AM/FM/TV towers and studio to transmitter links.

http://www.fccinfo.com/fccinfo_google_earth.php

The FCC wireless bureau has a database search:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSear ... icense.jsp

When you get to that page, click on "advanced search"--you can search for license by coordinates, county, etc. However, many services are not identified as to a specific site.

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Re: What's on a tower?

Post by Shane » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:01 am

If it is 200 feet or higher -- it would be lighted at night if so -- and you are close by, there should be an ASR number posted on a sign where you can see it (usually on a fence or a gate).

Look up that number on the FCC ASR page and you can find out who owns it and some other things of note. That information might also be on the aforementioned sign.
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Post by NECRAT » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:03 am

TPT wrote:Cavell Mertz has an app that can be used with Google Earth that will identify the locations of AM/FM/TV towers and studio to transmitter links.

http://www.fccinfo.com/fccinfo_google_earth.php

The FCC wireless bureau has a database search:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSear ... icense.jsp

When you get to that page, click on "advanced search"--you can search for license by coordinates, county, etc. However, many services are not identified as to a specific site.
I find the general menu reports function is an easier tool to use.
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/General_Menu_Reports/
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Post by NECRAT » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:06 am

PID_Stop wrote: It's not a dumb question, but it is a question that most broadcasters and other tower tenants would be reluctant to answer for security reasons, particularly given the long-standing problems with vandalism, and the increasing reality of terrorism.
I tend to find that tower owners are more inclined to not answer for competitive reasons than for security reasons, federal and public safety users excluded. They don't want the owner of a new tower approaching the current tenants to try and offer a better deal.

However finding who is on the tower can be done with five minutes worth of research, provided the FCC databases are up to date and the information on them is correct.
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Re: What's on a tower?

Post by PID_Stop » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:22 am

NECRAT wrote:I tend to find that tower owners are more inclined to not answer for competitive reasons than for security reasons, federal and public safety users excluded. They don't want the owner of a new tower approaching the current tenants to try and offer a better deal.
Maybe so... all of our towers in my area happen to also have various governmental / public safety installations. We also have to deal fairly regularly with people who think a tower is a challenge to be scaled, and obstruction lights are an entertaining target. It's unfortunate that for every person with genuine and benign curiosity, there are scores of idiots out there.

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Re: What's on a tower?

Post by Shane » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:13 pm

When I lived in a different area I once asked where a particular repeater was located and they wouldn't tell me "for security reasons" in 1980!

In this area here, the nets held on the various repeaters typically close with thanks to the TV station(s) and other tower owners hosting their repeaters.
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