Blue tooth mixer and high school games

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Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by musiconradio.com » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:27 pm

Good morning engineering experts.

We are having wireless connectivity issues and want to switch to a landline back at the studio. We found this. I am not a bluetooth expert. Could we use this bluetooth connectivity mixer (Peavey PV 6 BT)to relay high school football games since it looks like it has the capability for phone interviews.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... gJa0_D_BwE

Great connectivity, including Bluetooth

2 universal low-noise microphone preamps, 2 pair of stereo 1/4" inputs, stereo RCA ins, a 3.55mm jack, and Bluetooth connectivity. Not bad for a mixer smaller than some coffee table books. If you use multiple different sound sources for your mixing application but need something in a trimmed-down format the PV 6 BT may be just your ticket. Do you podcast with one or two mics, a device for bringing in music or sound effects, and want to be able to use your bluetooth enabled smartphone for phone interviews? Thanks to Peavey now you can!

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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by Deep Thought » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:50 pm

What are you wanting to use Bluetooth for? The audio connection to a phone?

Bluetooth has extremely limited range so anything not within about 20 feet will be sketchy if it works at all.
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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by TPT » Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:58 pm

If you have problems with wireless connections not sure how this mixer would help. As noted, blue tooth is limited in range, so what would it connect to? A cell phone?

We do three high school football games each week, so use a variety of connections. We use the JK sport mixer, which has a built in hybrid, plus three mike inputs--the current version of this is their Remote MIx 3.5. These units have a touch tone pad & telephone jack that can connect with a land line at the remote site. We also use a "home phone" from either A.T. & T or Verizon where we can't get a land line. This is a cell phone (on Verizon it is only about $24 a month once you buy the equipment) with an external antenna and a modular jack on the side--the JK sport mixer looks like a telephone to the unit--you just dial out on the JK using the "home phone" cell connection.

The JK units are expensive new--but here's a used one for sale:
http://www.prostudioconnection.com/JK-A ... 206323.htm

At the studio, best to get a hybrid (Gentner units are plentiful on e-bay) & an equalizer like the Art 310

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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by ChuckG » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:16 pm

The bluetooth mixer connects to a bluetooth enabled cellphone. Tried it, didn't like it. Bluetooth just wasn't all that reliable.
Usually saw the mixer, but not always. Had to re-do the "pair" thing on the phone too often.
There are XLR adapters to fit many phones...plug your mixer into that. One example:
https://www.amazon.com/CableJive-Microp ... B007R5WRHU
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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by musiconradio.com » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:55 pm

TPT wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:58 pm
If you have problems with wireless connections not sure how this mixer would help. As noted, blue tooth is limited in range, so what would it connect to? A cell phone?

We do three high school football games each week, so use a variety of connections. We use the JK sport mixer, which has a built in hybrid, plus three mike inputs--the current version of this is their Remote MIx 3.5. These units have a touch tone pad & telephone jack that can connect with a land line at the remote site. We also use a "home phone" from either A.T. & T or Verizon where we can't get a land line. This is a cell phone (on Verizon it is only about $24 a month once you buy the equipment) with an external antenna and a modular jack on the side--the JK sport mixer looks like a telephone to the unit--you just dial out on the JK using the "home phone" cell connection.

The JK units are expensive new--but here's a used one for sale:
http://www.prostudioconnection.com/JK-A ... 206323.htm

At the studio, best to get a hybrid (Gentner units are plentiful on e-bay) & an equalizer like the Art 310
We are in a very rural location. A landline at the pressbox will not be possible. Cell is the ony option.

We have several phones from different Carriers. Depending on the location, we will use that phone (hence the Blue tooth connection). Yes we have a Gentner at the station.

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Post by musiconradio.com » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:58 pm

Deep Thought wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:50 pm
What are you wanting to use Bluetooth for? The audio connection to a phone?

Bluetooth has extremely limited range so anything not within about 20 feet will be sketchy if it works at all.
The phone will be next to the mixer in the pressbox. Yes we will use a cell phone.

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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by kkiddkkidd » Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:44 am

Make sure that the bluetooth is 2-way. One of my clients looked at one of the early, cheap consoles with BT connectivity and just before ordering found that the BT was incoming to console only. I have seen others recently that mentioned using it to broadcast phone calls so that may not be a problem now.
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Post by musiconradio.com » Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:06 pm

Thank you everyone.

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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by TvRadioGuy » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:11 pm

I worked for a station group That had a couple Wire less routers. We used Tieline there Sound Quality was great. We used it On Major NBA Championship Finals Live broadcasts for Events Concerts Ect. D link 4g Wifi Router and we also Used A cradlepoint 4g Wiress Router They Both worked Fine. I was recently talking to an engineer for a station and he mentioned that they are using a Pair of barix boxes and a wireless routers to do games. You just may have to have a mix minus So your Board op can talk to your talent at the game.

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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by TPT » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:19 am

If I understand what they want to do--the Bluetooth would be used to connect their mixer to a cellphone. Google "Verizon home phone."
This is a cell phone with an RJ11 (modular jack). All you need then is a regular telephone or telephone-like device to communicate...J K audio has a variety at all price levels. Ideal combination is one of their mixers with touch-pad and built in hybrid since you can get feedback from the station through the studio hybrid.

The "home phone" has a rubber-ducky type antenna and can often find a tower where cell phones show no signal.

There are IT based solutions using cell phones. I saw a presentation last fall in Columbus using a Shure device and tablet at the remote, and a Tie Line in the studio. But they are much more expensive.

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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by TvRadioGuy » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:23 am

Sound quality will not be the best You r best sound quility will be using a barix setup where you run your Audion out of your mixer into the encoder box thru 4 G Internet and then to your studio. If you are no concerned on how it will sound then that's an option. I prefer Quality I understand Not Big budget also.

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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by grich » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:25 am

kkiddkkidd wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:44 am
Make sure that the bluetooth is 2-way. One of my clients looked at one of the early, cheap consoles with BT connectivity and just before ordering found that the BT was incoming to console only. I have seen others recently that mentioned using it to broadcast phone calls so that may not be a problem now.
I scanned the manual for this, and it appears to be one-way...at least it says nothing about return audio back to the BT.

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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by grich » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:29 am

TvRadioGuy wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:23 am
Sound quality will not be the best You r best sound quility will be using a barix setup where you run your Audion out of your mixer into the encoder box thru 4 G Internet and then to your studio. If you are no concerned on how it will sound then that's an option. I prefer Quality I understand Not Big budget also.
OP said they are having wireless connectivity issues, so I'm guessing 4G Internet is not reliable at this site, hence the push to using cell audio.

One of my clients fights this same issue, which is why they continue to rely on Marti gear heavily.

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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by TPT » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:09 pm

We've run into sites with no wires to the football press box...you can try an IP connection over cell, but good luck on that. So we fall back to cell.

We've run into sites with just one cell provider in the area--so we have the "home phone" boxes for both GSM AT&T and CDMA Verizon.

We've run into schools with next to no cell phone coverage...where the extra range works with the home phone boxes...or we try to get a pots line installed (expensive anymore--but often no choice).

IP is fine if it's the home team and you can check the connections ahead of time--or can get your own drop installed. But on the road a lot of schools either have very limited internet, or it is locked up tight so it can't be used.

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Re: Blue tooth mixer and high school games

Post by W2XJ » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:02 am

For what its worth, keep an eye on Tmobile. They are agressively rolling out their newly acquired 600 MHz spectrum. While this doesn’t solve the current problems, they are focusing on more rural areas since the repack hasn’t happened. Once they light up service, a new phone will be required since none of the current devices cover 600 MHz.

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