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FAA requirements for Decommissioned towers

Post by DelD » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:05 pm

All kinds of info about new construction but can't seem to find a solid answer exactly what to do when decommissioning (dropping/removal) towers with FAA required lighting/ASR's. Our consultant thinks we fill out a modification of structure and notification forms (FAA) right after dropping them (and notice to FCC of same). Anyone had experience?
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Re: FAA requirements for Decommissioned towers

Post by kkiddkkidd » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:27 am

Del,

It has been a long time since I have been involved in decommissioning a lighted tower but I believe that you file a Notice of Alteration and specify that the tower will be deconstructed starting on a certain date and be completely down by xx/xx/xxxx.

A call to the FAA specialist for the state in question would probably be prudent if no one here can provide exact info.

Here is the FAA's interactive tool to find your state's specialists:
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/public/aorMap.jsp

Be sure to NOTAM the lights out as the tower(s) come down.

Please report back on what you find.

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Re: FAA requirements for Decommissioned towers

Post by NECRAT » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:44 am

On top of what Kevin said above,

You need to file a NOTAM when you demolish the tower to the fact the lighting is out, until the tower is officially off record.

What I believe is fact, is you also have to have the FCC modify your ASRN to "dismantled" status, to get the tower taken off record.
Based on what I've read, when the FCC receives the modification, the ASRN and all associated FAA documents eliminate the tower from record. (The ASRN record remains, but as a 0 tower status, more or less)

An AM station in Boston recently got a NAL for not notifying the commission that their former tower was dismantled, and when the inspector went to the site, he saw a building (ironically the building the iHeartRadio studios are in, unrelated more or less to this AM) where the tower was supposed to be. So they nailed them for not properly updating the ASRN status and for not filing a NOTAM of the outage of the lights.
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Re: FAA requirements for Decommissioned towers

Post by Deep Thought » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:40 pm

Yeah, some asshole inspector wanting to make trouble for someone will nick you for not notifying the FCC about a dismantled tower (or one registered but not constructed). Definitely go into the ASRN system and change the status to "horizontal". :)

As for the FAA, you file a 7460-2 Supplemental Notice for the tower and select "dismantled":
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Re: FAA requirements for Decommissioned towers

Post by DelD » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:33 pm

Mark-can you send link for the ASRN NOTAM e-reporting system. It doesn't seem to have any links on the home page anymore.

Everyone-Thanks for all the help!
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Re: FAA requirements for Decommissioned towers

Post by kkiddkkidd » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:52 pm

Although I didn't recall it being in Boston, I think that this was the site that I had heard about that was busted for _not_ having a non-existent tower lit according to it's non-existent license. Or something...


NECRAT wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:44 am
On top of what Kevin said above,

You need to file a NOTAM when you demolish the tower to the fact the lighting is out, until the tower is officially off record.

What I believe is fact, is you also have to have the FCC modify your ASRN to "dismantled" status, to get the tower taken off record.
Based on what I've read, when the FCC receives the modification, the ASRN and all associated FAA documents eliminate the tower from record. (The ASRN record remains, but as a 0 tower status, more or less)

An AM station in Boston recently got a NAL for not notifying the commission that their former tower was dismantled, and when the inspector went to the site, he saw a building (ironically the building the iHeartRadio studios are in, unrelated more or less to this AM) where the tower was supposed to be. So they nailed them for not properly updating the ASRN status and for not filing a NOTAM of the outage of the lights.
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