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Proposal XML

Post by TPT » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:30 pm

Our traffic people have been going nuts fighting this for the last few days An electric company wanting proposals in this format. Best I can figure it is some kind of software that makes life easier for everyone except the stations. All I can find through Google is that it is: A. Something the TV folks use ( we're radio, explains why we haven't heard of it) and B: If we were a Nielsen client there is a module that ties into Tapscan. Nielsen's rates for our market are way too high to justify for the ever-shrinking pool of regional/national buys.

Anyone know who makes it? How outrageously expensive is it?

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Re: Proposal XML

Post by RGORJANCE » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:51 pm

Search for....convertor for xml. It popped up a couple pages of stuff, some free, some you pay for.

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Re: Proposal XML

Post by TPT » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:02 pm

Don't think that is it. They were trying some kind of converter program TO XMl--but it would not load into the site where the proposal had to be filed.
I get the impression this is an xml based program using some kind of form. Sort of like the fill-in-the-blanks PDF forms.

Need to get in touch with TV traffic folks--we'll see if our contact who is a sales manager at a TV station can help.

When we are talking about a proposal for a $200 buy it's beginning to seem pointless.

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Re: Proposal XML

Post by ChuckG » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:33 am

I swear they find these oddball formats and ask for them with a straight face just to screw with us lol.
Anyway this one is easy..most any modern version of MS Word will export documents into XML.
It's Extensible Markup Language, kind of a relative of HTML only nobody uses it. Well almost nobody I guess.
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Re: Proposal XML

Post by TPT » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:05 am

That's what I thought--but apparently not. We had to file a proposal through strata (or somebody named like that) which then got assembled and sent to the agency. Would be simpler to e-mail the proposal to straight to the agency but that can't be done anymore.

Yeah, what happens, is the software developers sell the agencies all this weird software that will slice bread and butter it for the time buyers. Then the agencies want strawberry jelly on it and everything jams up.

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Re: Proposal XML

Post by kkiddkkidd » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:56 am

ChuckG wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:33 am
I swear they find these oddball formats and ask for them with a straight face just to screw with us lol.
Anyway this one is easy..most any modern version of MS Word will export documents into XML.
It's Extensible Markup Language, kind of a relative of HTML only nobody uses it. Well almost nobody I guess.
I know exactly ZERO about the subject under discussion but IF you knew the field/variable names that they are wanting to see, you could probably write a MS or LibreOffice XML template to duplicate what the dedicated software spits out.
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Re: Proposal XML

Post by w9wi » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:30 pm

XML is a rather broad standard. Saying "we need this order submitted in XML format" without elaborating is kinda like saying "I want to buy a transmitter" without specifying whether you mean 50kw AM, 100 watt FM, or ATSC 3.0 TV.

There seem to be some possibly relevant XML definitions on this page at the Radio Advertising Bureau:
http://www.rab.com/public/edi/ediPage.cfm
I don't see enough there to be sure of writing workable XML.
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Re: Proposal XML

Post by jthorusen » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:22 am

Just submit it as a Word document in .XML format. Then, if they complain, tell them they don't have the latest version of the software and let their IT guys go nuts for a change. :D
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Re: Proposal XML

Post by TPT » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:31 am

That's essentially what we had to do. The agency was using yet another company collect proposals for this buy. That company was the one wanting this "proposal XML" format used. We eventually attached an XML file of our proposal to an e-mail sent to the agency--the agency then sent the XML format proposal to this third party company--who couldn't get their own software to open it!

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Re: Proposal XML

Post by TPT » Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:38 am

RE: RAB links--7 different schemes for making radio buying process more expensive for the stations. Similar to the craze years ago for electronic billing--with everyone using a different system. At least there are companies out there that handle this for a nominal fee--but the joke is after the electronic billing is sent out the agencies still want paper copies--sent by fax-- in triplicate.

That--and gut-bucket rates, why I hope for the early demise of "I-hurt" and opther large groups that encourage this nonsense.

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